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UPDATED GROUP RULES 11/7/20

The goal of this group is to have HONEST & RESPECTFUL discussions between the faiths. What follows is the group rules. Please read over them.

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UPDATED GROUP RULES 11/7/20

The goal of this group is to have HONEST & RESPECTFUL discussions between the faiths. What follows is the group rules. Please read over them. Moderators hold members accountable to the rules. Do not disrespect the moderators because they have the power to mute your profile and remove you from the group. One thing that we all must remember and practice is love. The two commandments that Jesus left us with is to love God and one another.

Please be respectful of other people. Just because you disagree does not mean you have to be disrespectful. This includes Muhammad and Jesus or any other figure. To clarify being disrespectful is not posting honest facts. Facts are not disrespectful and will not be treated as such.

In discussion refrain from logical fallacies, including but not limited to equivocation, ad-hominem, circular reasoning, non-sequitur, bandwagon, appeal to authority, strawman, red herring, etc.

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How do I do this? Copy the post and click the files button to the left of your screen. After that click (create document). Paste your post into that new document and then click save. Your new document will post to the group and show up to the right of your screen under the heading recent group files.

All posts must be in English

All posts MUST have a clear discussion point.

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Limit your posts to two or three a day. Limiting your posts helps people discuss the topic further. We encourage intellectual honesty. Humility is a good virtue. You can learn a lot in this group if you remain objective and open-minded.

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Steve Jeffers

November 8, 2020 1:35 am

As a Muslim the Highest Relationship you can hope for with God is Master to Slave. As a Christian we are Sanctified, Purified, Justified and Free - Sons by FAITH, and we have an inhertance. 35 The ... View More

Blair Laird

Son of God or slave.. seems like the choice is easy.. it is much better to be a son of God. Not only a son but a partaker of the divine nature. One who can have a deep mystical union with the creator

1 November 8, 2020

Blair Laird

November 8, 2020 1:33 am

I thought Morey had an interesting breakdown here to contemplated.. Is he wrong in any of these assertions? "Logically speaking, the burden of proof is on the Muslims. They must prove that �Allah� i... View MoreI thought Morey had an interesting breakdown here to contemplated.. Is he wrong in any of these assertions? "Logically speaking, the burden of proof is on the Muslims. They must prove that �Allah� is the �true� god. The first problem we face is that modern Muslims never bother to prove that �Allah� is �God.� They simply assert that this is true. Thus they end up arguing in a circle by assuming what they have yet to prove. To chant �Allah is Great� is not the same thing as proving that he is God. They also commit the fallacy of assuming that if they attack the Triune God of Christianity, Allah wins by default. But both gods could be false. The second problem is that the attributes of Allah as found in the Qur�an reveal that he is not �God� in the classical Judeo-Christian sense. 1. He is a god of deceit and trickery instead of a God of Truth (Surah 3:54). As such, he is fickle and cannot be trusted. 2. He commands men to sin (Surah 17:16) and wills them to unbelief (Surah 7:89) and then he punishes them for it. 3. In Surahs 4:171 and 5:116, he said that the Trinity was composed of the Father, the Mother, and the Son. This shows that he is an ignorant god. 4. His �paradise� is a corrupt place filled with drunkenness and sexual orgies with houries and young men (Surahs 2:25; 4:57; 47:15; 56:15�23). 5. His speech is filled with grammatical errors such as confusing gender and number in the same sentence (Surahs 7:160; 2:17; 42:17, etc.). 6. He contradicted himself. For example, Surah 41:5�9 says there were eight days of creation, while Surah 7:54 says there were only six days. 7. He made scientific errors such as the sun setting in a muddy pond (Surah 18:86) or people turning into apes (Surah 2:65). 8. He made historical errors such as having the Samaritans exist before there was a Samaria. (Surah 20:85, 87, 95). 9. He was mistaken when he said that he had sent down the Qur�an in pure Arabic (Surahs 12:2; 13:37; 41:44; 43:7). It has many foreign words. 10. He would say one thing and then turn around and abrogate it (Surahs 2:106; 16:101). Since some liberal Muslims claim that their �Allah� is the same God found in the Bible, it is important to review the facts. �Allah� is not the God of the Bible for the following reasons: 1. He is not the holy Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. 2. He never became incarnate and died for our sins on the cross. 3. He is not a savior. 4. We must save ourselves by our own good works. 5. He is Antichrist according to I John 2:22�23. �This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.� Since Islam says that Jesus was not the Son of Allah and Allah is not his Father, it does not take Ph.D. to figure out that Allah is not the God of the Bible. 6. �Allah� was the father of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat. The �daughters of Allah� are referred to in the Qur�an in the famous �Satanic Verses� (Surah 53:9�21). 7. Allah was originally the moon god who was married to the sun goddess. The stars were their offspring. 8. Muhammad�s father, Abdullah, lived and died as a pagan and yet Allah was part of his name, �Abdullah,� because it referred to a pagan god. 9. The rituals associated with the worship of the pagan god Allah were adopted by Muhammad as an essential part of Islam. This especially applies to praying toward Mecca, the Pilgrimage (HAJJ) to Mecca, the Fast of Ramadan, and other essential rituals of Islam. 10. Islam has adopted the name, the rituals, and the crescent moon symbol of the moon-god. But it now denies that he has a wife or daughters. Thus Allah remains the same pagan deity minus his wife and daughters." Morey Robert A. Winning the War against Radical Islam. Orange, CA: Christian Scholars Press, 2002. Print.

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