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Jim Tom
I gbink they legit won in 2008 and 12….sadly people loved barack’s fake used car salesman demeanor
Tom Quimby
I think your right on 08, but he had already done enough damage his 1st term to win legit the 2nd term. I think they just got lucky enough not to get caught
Jim Tom
I completely agree….which makes him the silver-tongue great deciever