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Pulp Fiction co-creator Roger Avary said that he thinks the Luciferians have put a spell on the world. He said they are manipulating everything, that it is all an illusion, and that the reality we know is fake.On the Joe Rogan Experience, Roger Avary connected this idea to the theme of “predictive programming,” saying powerful people may reveal dark ideas in jokes, skits, movies, or public talk first, so the public slowly gets used to them.He was saying that the Epstein file leaks made him feel like there is a hidden, dark system behind public life, and that most people are acting too normal about it. He described the Atlanta airport guy as basically saying, “you all are zombies,” meaning people are numb and not reacting to what he sees as shocking evidence.He was not speaking in a literal, proven way. He was describing a conspiracy-style belief that evil groups work behind the scenes, use symbols and stories, and make people less shocked by things like demons, sacrifice, or abuse. He was saying he thinks some hidden group is deliberately numbing people and preparing them to accept bad things as normal.He also tied this to a bigger idea that reality is controlled by powerful groups, and that many people refuse to see it because they do not want to believe how bad it is. He used examples from movies, jokes, and public scandals to argue that people are being conditioned little by little, instead of being told the truth directly.#conspiracy #consiousness #mindcontrol