The Texas Secession Discussion Group

David Ray

January 25, 2021 7:06 am

It's not going to be ok. No one is coming to save you. I watch and listen to all the kooks I can find online. I cover the entire spectrum form totally legit to total fantasy land when it comes to new... View MoreIt's not going to be ok. No one is coming to save you. I watch and listen to all the kooks I can find online. I cover the entire spectrum form totally legit to total fantasy land when it comes to news and world events. I discovered a long time ago -before there even really was much of an Internet -that you really don't have to watch mainstream news very much to get the idea. You tend to get the same themes over and over and all the outlets just parrot the exact same messaging -often word for word. Discovering what they fail to report tends to be much more important than any analysis of the "spin" on what they're actually reporting. A lot of these people are clearly just wacky. Some of them sound credible if you accept certain premises, lack certain specific information or are willing to suspend disbelief at the appropriate points of the narrative. Here me when I tell you this -everybody peddling these very exciting, drama-filled narratives about what's going on in the world at any given time are feeding you BS -either by accident or on purpose. The ideas and policies you need to be fighting are not exciting or dramatic. They're boring af. Excitement is the very last desire of anybody involved in creating all of these problems in society that seem "too big to address". The dramatic battle between good and evil is not found in a story worthy of a blockbuster action movie, it is to be found halfway down page 1,486 of "An Act to Do Something Boring That You Don't Care or Know About of 2021". The players are not evil masterminds plotting the years and decades of the future, they are experts, empowered with money and influence, at the art of managing risk -a concept completely alien to probably 90 percent of the population -in order to arrive upon end results that make you more manageable, that remove options that would make you unpredictable, that deny you avenues of information, and that erect psychological barriers that keep you in perceived isolation that is illusory or otherwise in fear of being outspoken. And they are winning. You think when you win battles that you've actually won something, not realizing that the forces at work to consolidate everything -money, government, etc. -the whole "one world" thing -expect failure and build it into a model of acceptable risk management. Perhaps you are a Trump supporter for example, and perhaps you think you won a battle by getting Donald Trump elected. That's not what happened. Look at what happened for crying out loud! The election was straight up stolen and he's out. You think you won that battle, but what has really happened is that voter fraud has been more or less permanently embedded into the fabric of government. The State no longer needs to worry about what you think or what you say or who you vote for. It can all be managed now. Meanwhile, the country is almost certainly about to be more or less handed over to China, effectively perpetual one party rule is very realistically within the grasp of the Democrat Party, or at the very least, the other party will have to change radically to remain "competitive" -all within the confines of views not set by you, but by the State itself, and your vote, if there is any chance whatsoever that you may have a slim hope of showing up in such overwhelming defiance of it all to blatantly refute even the most elaborate and effective fraud, that voice will be nullified by the importation of new voters that will either show up to negate your vote, or barring that, can be perceived by fraud to have done so. So how's that "win" in 2016 look now? Nobody is coming to save you. Donald Trump is not coming to save you. QAnon is not coming to save you. Stop trusting the plan. There is no plan. YOU are the plan and if you don't accept the very real possibility that you can be in the right, you can act with conviction for righteous cause and still go down in flames, failing utterly, then there is no fight. There is nothing. End of rant. #Texit

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Rusty Wilson

So your advice is to just give in? Sorry I'm not part of the group. I just saw this and thought I would see if that is what you mean.

January 25, 2021

Cheryl Wilson

Your post was a little confusing though David Ray. At one point it was almost as if we are doomed no matter what. "The players are not evil masterminds plotting the years and decades of the future, they are experts, empowered with money and influence, at the art of managing risk -a concept complet... View More

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1 February 17, 2021

David Ray

December 24, 2020 9:32 pm

My days on facebook may be limited. Our group has well over 800 members there now. Having created that page, I am unsure what the future of that page may be if I am no longer on the platform. I am n... View More

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Jo Anna Ramirez

I got tired of all the censorship I left Fakebook this site has its problems but at least you can speak freely without censorship and algorithms.

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1 December 24, 2020

Cheryl Wilson

I left Facebook over two months ago. Twitter as well. There are other avenues to get the word out. Anyone still on Facebook should encourage those to leave and join Wimkin. Wimkin is not perfect, they are going through many trials and tribulations with big tech now, but I don't understand all th... View More

February 17, 2021

David Ray

December 31, 2020 1:47 am

In the United States, the rioters will always win. The people willing to destroy society to get what they want will always win. People not willing to do these things will never win because the establi... View MoreIn the United States, the rioters will always win. The people willing to destroy society to get what they want will always win. People not willing to do these things will never win because the establishment does not fear them and provides no avenues for justice for them. I cannot begin to express how much it annoys me that this is the case, and that it seems that it can't be made obvious enough for sane people to get it. Everything is owned, controlled and directed by the bank, the corporation, and the un-elected bureaucrat. Everything -including YOU. I don't care how "patriotic" you are. I don't care how much logical sense your argument makes. It doesn't matter. The founders of the United States were wise enough to issue a Declaration of Independence, but they didn't address it to the King, they addressed it to the world because they knew that no argument would suffice to alter the course of their oppressor. Today, people in the US are not nearly so wise. Don't "trust the plan". Forget relying on Constitutional protections -those that provide the material support for those protections have no interest in providing it for you. Forget elections. At best, they are a leash -you can get what you want but only so far -stray too far from the establishment line and get choked with the most obvious and ridiculous display of unbridled power imaginable and watch the ignorant masses out-shout your reason with viral idiocy. For me, it was enough to realize that prosperity was being unduly compromised by government. Not so for most apparently, as they continue to watch their wealth and opportunity migrate to GigantoCorp, China and the bank. For others, a blatant display of unjust power by government sufficed -The 1993 Waco disaster or LaVoy Finicum -but still not so for most. "Just leave me alone and let me work my job and pay my mortgage". Now, in addition to the above (and much more that could be listed), your actual vote has been flat out negated by a collection of establishment sources that in no way represent you or your interests. You no longer even get to pretend like you can make change via the ballot box -and you watch -for many this STILL won't be enough. What I am describing here for you in case you've missed it, is the process by which you lead sheep to the slaughter. #Texit

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Robert Brown

Thats why rioters and looters need to be dropped on site, and stack there fucking bodies like cord wood!!!!

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1 December 31, 2020

Cheryl Wilson

I agree.

February 17, 2021

The Texas Secession Discussion Group updated their cover photo.

January 25, 2021 7:25 am

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David Ray

December 28, 2020 2:35 pm

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David Ray

December 24, 2020 10:50 pm

We have a fairly established group on facebook with lots of conversations and people that want Texas out of the United States. Currently, we are conducing polls every Monday regarding particulars of t... View More

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David Ray

November 6, 2020 11:47 am

There are two main discussions that have to be had to increase the chances of actually getting Texas out of the United States. One of them is what I am attempting to address with this page, and that o... View More

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Lauri V

Can Florida join you guys?

November 6, 2020

Jerry

While i support this idea, and would gladly move from Tennessee if they didnt follow Texas, I think we have lost sight of the fact that the corruption is in every state, not a north v south scenario, 45% of Texas is part of the problem, give or take the percentage of false votes, and this holds true... View More

November 6, 2020

David Ray

September 16, 2020 12:38 am

Appreciate the new members! This group exists on facebook as well. I'm hoping many or all of them eventually migrate to wimkin #Texit

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Nicholas Scarpinato

#Facexit too

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1 September 20, 2020

David Ray

I'm there less and less every day. The Titanic might actually be sinking. Another iceberg ETA Oct 1.

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1 September 20, 2020

Jean Marie

Didn't know it was on FB

November 5, 2020

David Ray

September 29, 2020 3:07 pm

There are many obstacles to actually getting Texas out of the United States. Over the years, I've probably heard some version of all of them... "The federal government is too strong. They can force u... View MoreThere are many obstacles to actually getting Texas out of the United States. Over the years, I've probably heard some version of all of them... "The federal government is too strong. They can force us to stay." "We can't get enough control of the political system." "It's hard to get people on board for real change." ....and on and on and on. I offer that none of these things are our biggest problem, and the closer we get to achieving the goal, the more glaring that problem is going to become. The problem is political divisiveness. Most of the people in the is group and every similar group I've been in has overwhelmingly held conservative or libertarian views. We think Austin (for example) is just kooky and wrong. They like their big government and their rules and regulations and blah blah blah and we don't. I don't think we're recognizing how much of a problem this thinking is for us. If the Republic of Texas doesn't have room for kooky Austinites, it will never happen. Inclusiveness is not nearly as painful or difficult as you may imagine -it's just a matter of defining with sufficient clarity what the central government can and cannot do, and giving as much autonomy as possible to the smallest divisions of government. Basically, it's just doing what the founders of the United States tried (and ultimately failed) to do. Austin can run Austin however it pleases whether you like it or not. We have to be able to make that happen, and we have to be able to get some of those people on board. It has to be secession for all Texans, not an attempt to attain political majority for a favored ideological view. We may be seeing an example in the somewhat to very near future that demonstrates the importance of what I'm saying here. Those of you that follow the news may have heard the many calls from federal Democrats to alter the structure of the US in several ways, particularly in ending the electoral college, but more relevant to the discussion here, by adding states (turning DC and Puerto Rico into states). This is not an idle threat. If the Democrat Party gets control of the Executive and Legislative branches of government, they will do this. They'll get an unstoppable and near permanent majority in the US Senate if something drastic is not done. Anyone that thinks there will be no Republican response is deluded. They're not going to just lay down and die. As it happens, Texas was granted the option to divide itself into 5 states in the 1845 annexation agreement. The state is large enough and regionally diverse enough that it would be a fairly easy argument to, say, go to Austin and see how many would like to separate into their own state. Republicans in large numbers could also be fairly easily persuaded, since our 2 Republican US Senators could be converted to 8 or 9 and the Democrats would get maybe 1 or 2. That's the end of Texas. Now that the radical fringe of US politics is opening this door, this is a real threat that should not be discounted.

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