The Texas Secession Discussion Group

David Ray

November 6, 2020 11:47 am

There are two main discussions that have to be had to increase the chances of actually getting Texas out of the United States. One of them is what I am attempting to address with this page, and that o... View More

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Lauri V

Can Florida join you guys?

November 6, 2020

Jerry

While i support this idea, and would gladly move from Tennessee if they didnt follow Texas, I think we have lost sight of the fact that the corruption is in every state, not a north v south scenario, 45% of Texas is part of the problem, give or take the percentage of false votes, and this holds true... View More

November 6, 2020

David Ray

September 16, 2020 12:38 am

Appreciate the new members! This group exists on facebook as well. I'm hoping many or all of them eventually migrate to wimkin #Texit

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Nicholas Scarpinato

#Facexit too

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1 September 20, 2020

David Ray

I'm there less and less every day. The Titanic might actually be sinking. Another iceberg ETA Oct 1.

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1 September 20, 2020

Jean Marie

Didn't know it was on FB

November 5, 2020

David Ray

September 29, 2020 3:07 pm

There are many obstacles to actually getting Texas out of the United States. Over the years, I've probably heard some version of all of them... "The federal government is too strong. They can force u... View MoreThere are many obstacles to actually getting Texas out of the United States. Over the years, I've probably heard some version of all of them... "The federal government is too strong. They can force us to stay." "We can't get enough control of the political system." "It's hard to get people on board for real change." ....and on and on and on. I offer that none of these things are our biggest problem, and the closer we get to achieving the goal, the more glaring that problem is going to become. The problem is political divisiveness. Most of the people in the is group and every similar group I've been in has overwhelmingly held conservative or libertarian views. We think Austin (for example) is just kooky and wrong. They like their big government and their rules and regulations and blah blah blah and we don't. I don't think we're recognizing how much of a problem this thinking is for us. If the Republic of Texas doesn't have room for kooky Austinites, it will never happen. Inclusiveness is not nearly as painful or difficult as you may imagine -it's just a matter of defining with sufficient clarity what the central government can and cannot do, and giving as much autonomy as possible to the smallest divisions of government. Basically, it's just doing what the founders of the United States tried (and ultimately failed) to do. Austin can run Austin however it pleases whether you like it or not. We have to be able to make that happen, and we have to be able to get some of those people on board. It has to be secession for all Texans, not an attempt to attain political majority for a favored ideological view. We may be seeing an example in the somewhat to very near future that demonstrates the importance of what I'm saying here. Those of you that follow the news may have heard the many calls from federal Democrats to alter the structure of the US in several ways, particularly in ending the electoral college, but more relevant to the discussion here, by adding states (turning DC and Puerto Rico into states). This is not an idle threat. If the Democrat Party gets control of the Executive and Legislative branches of government, they will do this. They'll get an unstoppable and near permanent majority in the US Senate if something drastic is not done. Anyone that thinks there will be no Republican response is deluded. They're not going to just lay down and die. As it happens, Texas was granted the option to divide itself into 5 states in the 1845 annexation agreement. The state is large enough and regionally diverse enough that it would be a fairly easy argument to, say, go to Austin and see how many would like to separate into their own state. Republicans in large numbers could also be fairly easily persuaded, since our 2 Republican US Senators could be converted to 8 or 9 and the Democrats would get maybe 1 or 2. That's the end of Texas. Now that the radical fringe of US politics is opening this door, this is a real threat that should not be discounted.

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