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the left and libs are not the same group, the left has done a great job of confusing the 2 and many libs are also leftists but they are 2 separate groups, it goes like this. leftist0->liberal->moderate<-conservative<-right wing

The spectrum is more left tyranny, right total freedom. On the far left there is fascism and communism. On the far right, anarchy. Total government control as opposed to no government. Somewhere to the left of anarchy, in this country, is the far right. Those that love the Constitution too much.